world of warships bismarck vs yamato

The ONLY reason why the Iowa, South Dakota, and the North Carolina class presents any reasonable threat is due to the Mark 8 shell and their advancement in radar. You need to play a total of 10 battles to post in this section. Captain Lindemann -- who was quite capable -- was disgusted when Lutjens declined to pursue Prince of Wales and finish her off. If the US Navy was stuck using the Mark 5 AP shell for their guns. Yup, used Washington at NIGHT using radar fire control. In Artillery, we consider a near miss a hit if it does damage to the target. Which could mean any set amount. Considering Iowa's dispersion at that range was near 800m, good luck hitting the ship, oh wait, Yamato had a hard time hitting a carrier at that range with a straddle as well due to dispersion. Honestly, Yamato doesn't have a leg to stand on. C'était un honneur aux italiens que tout le monde ait copié, mais pas à Littorio, je vous l'accorde, qui avait la première version pourrie, certes correcte, mais en 34. It seems much sturdier. 224-45 Latest German Battleships put into Service - Bismarck - Tirpitz Hull Construction, as regards of firecontrol(Comment Prinz Eugen had basically the same system as the Bismarck class with the battleships having additional redundancy). The Nowaki was able to get away with only splinter damage. It can't help but be better than this kit. Even the German fanboys agreed that the Bismarck did not stand a chance vs the Yamato based on its design. The world's largest official Facebook group for the Battle of Warships with over 17,000 members. Before long, the Japanese begin to reply with their 18.1” guns. By contrast, Yamato had a 16" belt and a NINE INCH, at maximum, deck. Bismarck is comparable to the North Carolina and South Dakota. probably the Yamato but how do we know when the Bismarck isnt in game yet. 17 best images about navi ww2 on pinterest us navy world war and imperial japanese battleship iowa image search yamato vs class post treaty battleships the inglorius padre steve #39 s uss ijn of warships official forum I agree it didn't land it on the deck or the belt and get a penetration on it. Bismarck intact? Followers 1. Bismarck has better AA, so when GZ Test II will one shoot you, he will lose one or maybe two more planes doing it. We know that Giant bamboo curtains were built around Yamato while she was being constructed. For this reason, the Yamato class was put to sea. Still, Yamato had a smaller turning radius at a speed six knots higher. At 20km, German testing on KC plates puts the gun punching 364mm at a slope of 16.4 angle so that's about a 74 deg to vertical like the Yamato's. Everything is relative and information is only as good as the source. By her 4th salvo she had a full straddle, but due to the size of the escort carriers and the size of her spread at that range it's hard to get a hit on something that small. Well look at that, puts it right at 38km. If the US Navy was stuck using the Mark 5 AP shell for their guns. Now I doubt it would have set the magazines off due to the fact German shells were in semi-casing which when an 8'' shell off Aoba struck a US light cruiser under the water line and did just what it was designed to do and punched under and into the magazine, it detonated but due to the rushing water from the hole it made and the fact that the US 6'' guns used casing it didn't cause an explosion but it did put that magazine out of commission. simultaneous discharge of weapons. Invite you to the world's largest Official Facebook group. Minor Navies WW2 Fleets and battles. I dunno. While a battleship is bigger, it is also moving at a much faster speed. Aboard Prince of Wales, Captain Leach happened to be looking at Hood: "...at the moment when a salvo arrived and it appeared to be across the ship somewhere about the mainmast. The reality is the Yamato was designed to engage vessels like the Bismarck, the KGV, the US Standards, and to brutally beat them into submission while taking one in return unlike any other put to float. Lutjens could have so easily scored an even bigger victory and killed off the ships reporting his position (thereby improving his chances of escape) in one fell swoop. The guns also lacked the ability to penetrate the deck at that range with around 76-104mm of deck penetration depending on publications. Lutjens never even gave the order to fire on Hood, despite the fact that the sea was full of 14/15' shell splashes at the time. At 20km, the 46cm shells traveling at 522m/sec would fall at a 16.31 deg angle striking a 90deg belt at 73.69 deg to vertical and penetrate 566mm of VH steel. (if the Japanese actually built it). However, I believe(may be wrong) that the Bismarck's guns were designed to have a relatively small shell arc a.k.a more or less direct fire then a looping shell which would be a huge hindrance to itself in a fight against the Yamato, as to puncher the deck it would need a significant arc to punch through the 9" bomb decks... Yamato had far worse fire control, but far larger armament and thicker armor plating, while being surprisingly fast/agile for its size. Iowa, with her first-generation TDC, could consistently hit targets at 24 miles. Honestly Thoddy, you just made someone who is quite intelligent look like an idiot with that post. Bismarck has little … Sometime during the first moments of the execution of this turn, Hood was dealt her death blow- Bismarck’s 5th salvo had straddled, with one or two shells likely striking Hood somewhere around the main mast, or possibly through a narrow weak zone in her side (possibly even underwater). Deren Salven legten die fehlerhafte Konstruktion drastisch bloß . You also failed to address the abysmal Japanese gunnery results overall. Goddagames, June 3, 2014 in General Game Discussion. Bombs from the Dauntless sank all four of the Japanese carriers lost at Midway. Also, considering Bismarck's logs were not recovered, and PoW's was the only ones recorded, Bismarck did not achieve a true straddle until the 8th set came, from war diary "...Both vessels are on target after the first salvo...", Baron Müllenheim Rechberg (third artillery officer on board Bismarck) wich was also a survivor also notes 1. Their desire to live was greater...??? All trademarks and trademark rights pertaining to warships and aircraft are proprietary to the respective rights holders. Edited May 11, 2017 by Waroch. it still use the outdated armor scheme rather than the modern all-or-nothing, USNTME Technical Report No. Well, still not in range of those Mark 7 guns. However, unlike in real life, Yamato will actually have to contend with ships that were at least comparable. Bismarck also has something else going poorly for it. Unfortunately most if not all of this data was lost with the ship. Especially since Iowa was able to maneuver while holding a targeting solution. Bismarck mounted a 13 inch belt, and, at maximum, just under 5" of deck armor. As a matter of fact, there is no record of the Yamato ever hitting another ship with it's main cannons, that is a serious issue. Bismarcks turning diameter at 20 kn hard rudder was 650 m in a 360 degrees turn measured transverse to the original course. Bismarck vs. Yamato: What if Hitler's Biggest Battleship Attacked Japan's Monster Warship? Lo. For the movie, see One Piece Film: Z. Most saw action during and after the Napoleonic war around the world, preying on trade. For the record, a huge discussion on this was on the kbismark forum and the Yamato won by a landslide there as well. Gascogne — French premium Tier VIII battleship.. A battleship design developed on the basis of the very successful Richelieu class, which received improved AA capabilities and had the main turrets placed in the ship's aft and forward ends. The ONLY reason why the Iowa, South Dakota, and the North Carolina class presents any reasonable threat is due to the Mark 8 shell and their advancement in radar. Over time, the Frenc designed just before the revolution their own 38-guns, 18-pounder version, while the British responded by mass-producing three models, a very large 38-guns, the standard 36-guns and the cost-saving 32-guns. When you start talking about crew traits with regards to the Japanese vs. Germans or versus anyone else, and begin labeling one group of people with equal training and just as legendary a sea culture as inferior... no idea where those concepts are coming from, I guess. As to the Bismark vs Yamato, the Bismark is too old of a design to be able to stand up to the Yamato 1 on 1. they would need to see the impact of the shell vs the target in order to do that, and the impact point is very much invisible. So Yamato at 43km could view the top of the super structure. The Yamato class would have had an immunity range between 16000 and 29500 meters or roughly nearly 14km. The german distinguish between vital and non vital ship components. The U.S. And Iowa, being faster, would never allow Yamato to get into a range where she could be effective. Assuming makes an [edited]of you and everyone else, and gets good men killed. Now, its hard to say how WG will balance things with the Yamato. Your counting does not apply for the Kriegsmarine. Rugged construction — coupled with elaborate subdivision into compartments and a vast expanse of armor — ensured a high level of endurance. Now lets compare contrast the Iowa and New Jersey taking on the Katori and the Nowaki. This is often the case with government information anywhere. That means that the shell would hole the armor, but most likely not completely penetrate it, but the armor would eventually fail at that range. Yamato's turrets are impenetrable to the German 15" shell, and Yamato's shells can penetrate Bismarcks turrets at any range. So where did I mention "Full Gun Salvos"? Beginners are welcome. Landing more shells=higher chance of getting lucky, and the Bismarck easily, especially in a bad weather type scenario will be the far more accurate weapon than the Yamato. If you think Bismark is one of the ones with an outside chance, I'd like to you post me some of the stuff you've been smoking. Hitler would have fallen off his Schloss in delight. The germans made fullsize ballistic tests on own and foreign armor designs. The reason, speed, accuracy, crew skill, and the desire to live. They just could not contemplate the US Navy developing a shell like the super heavy at the time. So both vessels would be in effect firing about the same rate of fire depending on actions. 11-11-2020 1/700 HMS Grey Goose (Atlantic Models) by Joel Middleton . That's not to discredit the power of the Yammy, it would be an interesting fight and could go eitherway, but my money would be on the Bismarck. Bismarck — German Tier VIII battleship.. By the start of World War II, Bismarck was one of the mightiest battleships in the world, owing to her advanced gun fire control system and powerful artillery. Yamato would be hard pressed to score and … C'est pas Yamato, Iowa ou Bismarck qui les tournait aussi vite xD-Bon plugliese était tellement à peine correct que je le mentionne pas. World of Warships - téléchargez et jouez au jeu en ligne multijoueur figurant des bateaux, faites partie de la communauté WoWS EU At all ranges fired during this period, the most inexperienced officer, given a brief explanation of what to expect, can spot splashes accurately to within 100 yards, and to within 50 yards with some experience. Who would win in a battle, The Super Battleship Yamato or The Battleship Bismark, Washington and those other 49 lesser states. All navies fired partial salvo's to conserve shots to straddle a target before going to rapid fire. (Edit: Typo for 150cm search lights, accidentally typed 15cm). The difference is that the Yamato has a 20 degree outward slope that would increase that effective armor against that hit. Historically, the Panther mainly faced M4s and T-34s where as in WoT they face T29s, T20s, etc. That doesn't give me much confidence in the  fire control of the Yamato. So, what's this about over the Horizon and being "invulnerable"? This section is dedicated to World War II Warships of all fleets, covering all the belligerents in 1939 and operations from the 1st September 1939 shelling of the Polish Westerplatte by German Battleship Schleswig Holstein up to the Armistice in September 1945. Although large and capable of absorbing enormous battle damage, Bismarck and Tirpitz simply did not compare favorably with any other navy’s fast battleships. Share this post. Most information of a sensitive nature was destroyed either on purpose or due to the constant bombing of Japanese military facilities in the final days of the war. USS White Plains had to go in for complete drydock and repairs due to all the damage that was done just from 1 near miss, including flooding, warping of its outer-bulkheads and damage to its deck. The effective range is not identical. Yes, it didn't have that many chances, but the point still remains, it failed to achieve any main battery hits vs the Jeep carriers. But hers guns weren't very powerful. Speed though would really work hard into the Bismarck's favor as they would be able to keep the bigger slower ship at a greater range, thus make it easier for them to avoid getting hit. Cuirassé yamato vs bismarck Comparatif Richelieu / Bismarck - Page 2 - Discussions sur . Armor is mostly irrelevant in both cases because both would be able to penetrate eachother. Yamamoto: Japanese Naval Officer or a fashion designer. What's the basis for saying something like that? propellants charges wer stored in cartridges on the upper platform deck as they wer mor prone to symphatetic explosions compared to the shells, they were stored behind the side protection containing vertical belt and heavy slope lean back by 68 degrees and the torpedobulkhead and could not reached by diving projectiles. important systems receive 100% redundancy plus. Why? You also ignore my main point, there is NO record of the Yamato actually hitting another ship with it main battery. Yamato had the best optics designed in the world. According to "Unterlagen und Richtlinien zur Bestimmung der Hauptkampfentfernung und der Geschoßwahl Heft h Schlachtschiffe Bismarck und Tirpitz", the pentration expectations for FH armor were as following, Impact condition velocity ~510 m/s, AOF ~16, penetration of vertical armor inclined at 20 degrees resulting impact angle 36 degrees from normal ~280 mm, (prerequisite armor quality as german KC nA). The Yamato had an insanely small turning radius. During the Battle of Denmark Strait the Bismarck only fired 91 rounds out of 13 minutes. Strictly speaken Hood was straddled with salvo  one. Yamato would be hard pressed to score and hits on a maneuvering Iowa. And at 37km, that's not an easy feat by any vessel of the time. Bismarck isn't even in the same league. Hitler wouldn't have given a fig if the planned trade sweep had been abandoned. Bismarck opens fire on Yamato and Tirpitz on Musashi, with Bismarck scoring an early hit on the Japanese flagship. Their is the possibility that the information that is available to group's like naval weapons or history books  is some what propaganda. Iowa would be able to choose the engagement range because of her superior speed. +1 on this. 325K 7.1K 200. Wait, but that would be hard to adjust fire, so lets go with 50 feet above sealevel since we can see the tops of the secondaries and most of the bridge. Her main guns had overwhelming firepower. One of the Largest HP pools of all tech-tree Tier VIII Battleships. We will never know. Yamato — Japanese Tier X battleship.. At the battle of the Java sea, Japanese cruisers fire 1271 shells between 22,000 and 27,000 yards, and scored 5 hits, not an impressive feat of gunnery. EDIT: @ thiebodov, c'est un cuirassé classe Queen-Elizabeth je pense. Iowa can be expected to be able to hit, more effectively, more consistently, closer to it's maximum range, than Yamato. or the reconstruction made by Antonio Bonomi published also at hmshood.com, or the offical Naval Staff History Battle Summary No 5 The chase and sinking of the "Bismarck" 1950. This is an all plastic kit molded in medium gray except for the red plastic waterline plate. 2. Components such as ship leadership,Sensors, weapons, artillery leadership wich must remain in potentiall dangerous places receive thick armor. Im Mai 1941 traf der Riese im Nordatlantik auf die deutsche Bismarck. You need to play a total of 20 battles to post in this section. With Yamato's optics, they could straddle a target earlier than most vessels at the time. The Japanese 46 cm/45 Type 94 naval gun outranged the German 38 cm SK C/34 naval gun by nearly 4 MILES, and the shells were 1,200lbs heavier. He beats out … At 35,000 yards, the Iowa and New Jersey were able to straddle the destroyer Nowaki moving at 38 knots ON the first salvo, and every salvo after that. not to forget the target switch past destruction of Hood, wich immediatly produced several hits on POW on succeding salvos. Yamato was built under a vail of secrecy. My money is on Bismarck, good look to the crew of the Yamato in actually hitting Bismarck. A Salvo does not mean "All Guns". That also includes near misses from bombs if it did damage, that damage was still obtained, even if not at the amount desired, it's still a hit. So which ship do you think had the better fire control? Naturally, at such a long range neither ship would be firing anywhere near the maximum speed quoted. World of Warships - free-to-play naval warfare-themed massively multiplayer game from Wargaming. The main armament of Odin is very small for a battleship at that tier. You state in the Atlantic it has the advantage for shorter ranged engagements. The "Diving" underwater characteristic of the shells performed better at shorter ranges due to the tighter spread and high velocity of the shells. Yeah, good luck with that one. Honestly, I think a better debate would be: could Bismarck and Tirpitz together sink Yamato? But from what I read it is somewhat fragile. The German squadron has a three-knot speed advantage, which it uses to try to pull away from the Japanese and avoid the engagement. Lindemann screamed 'I WILL NOT HAVE MY SHIP SHOT OUT FROM UNDER MY [edited]' and gave the order himself. Bismarck is not even well built. C'est en tout cas plus pertinent de la comparer elle aux autres parce qu'elle datait de la même époque que Bismarck/KGV/Yamato. You can share your battle results, videos, epic moments, your favorite ships,and more. Ballistic protection was probably not a weakness. It means a simultaneous discharge of weapons. You mention that Yamato was able to achieve a straddle quickly, but it still missed the target. The Iowa on the other hand, would win most of the time vs the Yamato. 3. With a travel time of roughly 36 seconds, I would personally think the average at that range would be around 45-50 sec per salvo to adjust and correct fall. They displaced 7,800 tons at 512 feet long moving at 19 knots maximum. In that salvo there were, I think, two shots short and one over, but it may have been the other way round.". Less important components remain in the area above the main armor deck. Also, the Yamato not directly hitting anything with its main battery has always been in question against USS Gambier Bay. Rugged construction — coupled with elaborate subdivision into compartments and a vast expanse of armor — ensured a high level of endurance. Yamato's guns were so large they were basically prototypes. Fate has a funny way of leveling playing fields. It would strike a deck at 16.31 deg to horizontal and penetrate 167mm of NVNC steel plate. Thank you for your explantion of counting of salvoes. Par contre je suis désolé mais la protection sous-marine du Yamato je … I have been a nurse since 1997. [The Band] Home; About Us; Discography; Merchandise; Blog; Contact Us; Blog Nonetheless, the "Vals" served throughout the war and sank more Allied warships than any other Axis aircraft. Share. Nine 305mm guns, distributed among three triple turrets, is comparable to … That means that the shell would hole the armor, but most likely not completely penetrate it, but the armor would eventually fail at that range. How the heck do you know? To break that down for you, at 25km, the ranging inaccuracy of most optics was around 100-125m to properly guess the range of a target. Tirpitz has standard german 6km torps, so, if it happens you'll find yourself in Shards game without skycancers, you might surprise some Yamato that inevitably will go between the islands, with quick salvo, and when he Damage Con flooding, set fire with … Sunken battleships are the wrecks of large capital ships built from the 1880s to the mid-20th century that were either destroyed in battle, mined, deliberately destroyed in a weapons test, or scuttled.The battleship, as the might of a nation personified in a warship, played a vital role in the prestige, diplomacy, and military strategies of 20th century nations. The Iowa will start scoring the first hits, and with the speed advantage, it can keep the Yamato over the horizion, totally negating Yamato's optics. Even they use absolutely lower material strenghts, the provided protection by the spaced arrangement was increased compared to single plates . They just could not contemplate the US Navy developing a shell like the super heavy at the time. Even in that situation, which could be considered "ideal" they fired over 100 rounds for 12 hits. This included sinking the HMS Hermes, the first carrier to be sunk by carrier aircraft. Yes, it missed landing a direct shot at a small target due to its dispersion at 37km. As one can see Bismarcks impact pattern crossed HMS hood with the first 8 projectiles and this crossing was repeated during the following salvoes. By the start of World War II,Bismarckwas one of the mightiest battleships in the world, owing to his advanced gun fire control system and powerful artillery. Since they were firing 5 and 3 gun salvos, thats around 57 sec per salvo. Bismarck's upper belt would be its downfall. Without knowing entry speed, exit speed, duration of a 180/360 degrees turn, time until the ship reacts on the rudder, maximum heel etc a comparison may be misleading and speculative. Characteristics of all models are realistically reproduced on the basis of technical elements of warships and aircraft from the first half of the 20th century. The difference is that the Yamato has a 20 degree outward slope that would increase that effective armor against that hit. World of Warships - téléchargez et jouez au jeu en ligne multijoueur figurant des bateaux, faites partie de la communauté WoWS EU With their speed advantage gone, the Germans find themselves in a slugging match with far larger, more heavily armored opponents. Yamato’s 18.1-inch guns were the largest ever mounted on a warship. Six knots is a very big difference, you know. To also add with Wind, the Montana will also have a nice advantage of throwing 12 shells down range instead of 9, making straddling and saturation fire a lot easier. Destroyers, Cruisers and aircraft carriers. Before long, the Japanese begin to reply with their 18.1” guns. At 20km, the inaccuracy was around 30-50m depending on day to night and weather since they had a special infrared set to use at night. Die mächtige Hood war der Stolz der Royal Navy. That's opposite in fact. As all who have stated with hard, technical facts above, few (if any) of the big-gun warships ever created would have a chance against Yamato in a 1 vs 1 gun duel. Also mind you, it took Bismarck around 8 salvo's to straddle Hood, it took Yamato 2 salvos to straddle White Plains at 37-36km. By Iowa would be far more likely to achieve the first hit due to her vastly superior fire control. Iowa or Yamato would not have had an easy time. At 20km, German testing on KC plates puts the gun punching 364mm at a slope of 16.4 angle so that's about a 74 deg to vertical like the Yamato's. Bismarck opens fire on Yamato and Tirpitz on Musashi, with Bismarck scoring an early hit on the Japanese flagship. We have a saying in the Marine Corps. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------, your further statements include some more or less  inaccuracies. ", Bismark v Yamato? Side note - Why do a lot of people spell Yamato 'Yamamoto'? This is based on your superior knowledge of the subject I take it? The methodology of German Naval Gun designations changed three times in the first half of the 20th century. So I guess Iowa will fire all its shells and maybe get 2-3 hits that aren't near misses. Reality would dictate that so many more factors would be involved that we just can't calculate and at the end of the day luck would decide the winner. We have to remember that after loading the shells (which happens at a fixed angle, usually 5 degrees), the guns would have to be raised to the proper elevation. Now take this in, the Yamato couldn't hit a cruiser sized target moving at a maximum of 19 knots. With radar fire control, but the West Virginia and the Washington were able to get a straddle on the FIRST salvo. Even the German fanboys agreed that the Bismarck did not stand a chance vs the Yamato based on its design. It worked,  nobody expected Yamato to be as epic as she was. Two enemy capitals sunk? It's also the only recorded time of the shell doing what it was intended to do in combat. This caused severe barrel wear and loss of accuracy after a comparatively small number of rounds. So maybe I could use the free XP to skip japanese T8 and 9 ships and get Yamato. There are many Battle of Warships gameplay videos in this group. Fighters. Note there has been an announcement by Aoshima of a newly tooled Bismarck to replace the above kit sometime in April of 2008. 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